Wednesday, December 10, 2014

Go Ahead. Protest. For All the Good it Will (not) Do.

My thoughts turned to the protests occurring in select areas of the U.S. after several stories showing questionable to infuriating behavior by police:

The Michael Brown case in Ferguson, MO
The Eric Garner case in Staten Island, NY
The Tamir Rice case in Cleveland, OH

In two cases, grand juries did not issue indictments against the police officers.  We are still waiting on the third. 

People are angry.  Some of them justifiably.  They are taking to the streets; to the schools; to colleges and universities; and other arenas to voice their displeasure with the system and call for change and justice.

Good luck.

As the Occupy Movement I think has discovered, so will these: no real change will be forthcoming.  There will be no justice. 

Why do I say such a thing? 

It's not because I am a pessimist.  It's not necessarily because I am a realist.  It's because I don't think we have a shared agreement of what justice is.  We are a nation that is floating and adrift because we no longer have shared understandings about what words mean.  We have lost any sense of transcendent meaning.  We have no idea what Justice--with a capital J--means.  We have lost any sense of what is ultimately right and what is ultimately wrong, and you cannot have Justice without knowing what is right and what is wrong.

We live in a society where we parse words and sayings, take them out of context, and mold them and shape them to suit our own understandings and definitions.  We twist things to suit our own particular motivations and agendas.   In doing so, we can excuse certain behaviors and actions that blatantly contradict the law.

For instance, the U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights is explicit in Amendment 4:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Try to cite it as you go through an airport.  Is it "reasonable" to search every single person who boards a plane?  Think about it.  If you question being searched, you will be detained--possibly arrested, certainly inconvenienced. 

Amendment 2

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

For the better part of the history of our nation, this was an assurance that folks could own fire arms without any infringement.  Not so today.  Not in the least. 

In both of these cases, Constitutional scholars disagree vehemently as to how these texts should be interpreted.  They parse and define words to suit their own particular points of view, and leave many scratching their heads as to how such interpretations are arrived at.

How does such a thing happen?

In a word: postmodernism.  Rooted and grounded in Nietzsche's philosophy (reason taken to its ultimate, logical conclusion), postmodernity has removed any sort of transcendent, overarching narrative which joins any culture or people together.  It removed any shared definition of words and stories.  Everything now hinges upon perspective.  You see something from one particular point of view.  I see it from another, and who is to say who is correct?  Who is to say whose interpretation is true?  If you even think to know the Truth, then you are arrogant and wishful. 

This train of thought has seeped into our culture and infected it.  Yes, I used the term infected purposely for perspectivism leads down a dark road--a very dark one.  For there can be no agreed upon definition of good.  There can be no agreed upon definition of evil.  There can be no agreed upon definition of justice.  Ultimately, it is the ones who are in power who call the shots and define the terms as they see fit.  And if you wish to rise up, you may.  However, make sure you are strong enough and powerful enough to overthrow those in power.  For in the end, only might makes right.

You might think me jesting in such commentary, but allow me to take us to Ferguson, MO for just a moment and to the aftermath of the grand jury's decision.  Let us visit the riots and looting and burning of local businesses. 

Who of us if walking into one of these stores broke windows and doors and took merchandise would not be guilty of burglary?  Who of us would not stand accused and arrested if caught?  Many would consider our actions wrong for they violate the law.

But were there those excusing such behavior?  Were there those defending those who did such things appealing to extraneous circumstances?  Yes.  So that which is wrong wasn't necessarily as wrong as once thought because of the reasons behind the looting and rioting and burning.

Right isn't necessarily right.
Wrong isn't necessarily wrong.
It just depends upon where you sit and from what perspective you view the events.

And yet, there is the cry for justice?  Will the shop owners get justice?  Or is justice the crowd's burning of those shops?  Tell me.  Please.  Inquiring minds want to know.

Until we can begin to arrive at a place where we share definitions...
Until we can arrive at a place where we have an understanding of right and wrong...
Until we can arrive at a place where we have an agreed understanding of justice...

Your protests are meaningless!!  They will not change anything!!!

But it is not enough simply to point out that which is wrong.  Alternatives must be offered.  I point toward C.S. Lewis as a starting place.

C.S. Lewis in his book the Abolition of Man includes the following allegory about his own journey to Christianity.  During that journey Lewis was "captured" by the Spirit of the Age.  Here is what Lewis writes:

Every day a jailor brought the prisoners their food, and as he laid down the dishes he would say a word to them.  If their meal was flesh, he would remind them that they were eating corpses, or give them some account of the slaughtering: or, if it was the inwards of some beast, he would read them a lecture in anatomy and show the likeness of the mess to the same parts in themselves...Or if the meal were eggs, he would recall to them that they were eating the menstruum of a verminous fowl, and crack a few jokes with the female prisoner.  So he went on day by day.  Then I dreamed that one day there was nothing but milk for them, and the jailor said as he put down the pipkin:

'Our relations with the cow are not delicate--as you can easily see if you imagine eating any of her other secretions.'

Now John had been in the pit a shorter time than any of the others: and at these words something seemed to snap in his head and he gave a great sigh and suddenly spoke out in a loud, clear voice: 

'Thank heaven!  Now at last I know that you are talking nonsense.'

'What do you mean?' said the jailor, wheeling round upon him.

'You are trying to pretend that unlike things are like.  You are trying to make us think that milk is the same sort of thing as sweat or dung.'

'And pray, what difference is there except by custom?'

'Are you a liar or a fool, that you see no difference between that which Nature casts out as refuse and that which she stores up as food?'

'So Nature is a person, then, with purposes and consciousness,' said the jailor with a sneer.  'In fact, a Landlady.  No doubt it comforts you to imagine you can believe that sort of thing;' and he turned to leave the prison with his nose in the air.

'I know nothing about that,' shouted John after him.  'I am talking of what happens.  Milk does feed calves and dung does not.'

Are we willing to point out the lies and the foolishness of those who want to lead us down paths of relativism?  Are we willing to challenge those who say there is no transcendence?  Are we willing to say unequivocally, "There is such a thing as Justice!  There is such a thing as Truth!"

Of course, you might say, "Isn't this an arrogant sort of approach?  Are you telling me that you have the Truth?"

No.  I don't.  But I think the late Dallas Willard was onto something when he said, "Truth in belief and idea is, in a certain respect, similar to the sighting mechanism on a gun or rocket: if correctly used it enables us to hit what we hope to.  But in truth's case we need not see what we are aiming at.  Truth and the meaning upon which it rests takes care of the aim itself."

I am not certain we relish a search for Truth.  I am not certain we are willing to argue it passionately and vehemently anymore.  In the name of tolerance, we have pushed the quest for Truth to the back burners and decided should accept the idea of truths.  It won't work.  Not now.  Not in the long run.  Without any semblance of Truth, we will never have Justice.  Remember that as you protest.

28 comments:

Kathy Suarez said...

I am most certainly willing to argue for the Truth passionately and vehemently -- and, I hope, with charity. Your denom(ination) just held a die-in on Higgins Road. What if the Pope, Cardinals and employees of the Vatican held a die-in in St. Peter's Square? Would you have any respect for the Catholic Church?

A Pope once said: "The truth is not hard to find if you are diligent and unbiased." With our failed educational system, who even knows the definition of "diligent" and "unbiased"?

Unknown said...

Oh Dear,
For all the good it does.... perhaps I view these things differently. It is my experience that participating in the process, not that it will effect the end of racism or a world of justice truth and Love through out the whole wide earth, but rather to try the conventional approaches, and See where they lead... It is the journey after all and not the destination that is the teacher in this life.

Oh Well Cheerio.

having been banned from the other site for telling people that I would look for them on the evening news from Missouri. Or my insistence on praying for REACE with JUSTICE. not too sure. Wait was it that or commenting about the topic of male Circumcision rearing its head yet again. Oh Well I am Starting to feel like a banned Russian Poet, or Salman Rushdi... oh dear. :-)

Kevin Haug said...

I have heard such words about "the journey" before, and they would seem to be wisdom. However, I also know this, when you are bleeding profusely, you do not take the longest, most meandering route to the hospital.

I am sorry to hear of your banishment. A victim of the intolerant tolerant. You are welcome to share thoughts here at any time, Carl. Even when I disagree vehemently with you (and sometimes consider what you say hurtful...just my opinion), I value the freedom to exchange thought more.

Unknown said...

Kevin
Please forgive me. I do tend to lean irreverent, and Disrespectful when cornered.
I do appreciate our exchanges as you tend to stimulate the few remaining synapses that still fire.... Sometimes, in the process of trying to defend my position I lose sight of the goal of dialog and tend towards boorish/thuggish personal attacks. At this point in my Life with all of the changes, the death of a partner, moving to a new state, totaling a car in the process, and looking for work and meaning, I have tended to be real close to the edge.
Please forgive me.

Carl

Unknown said...

Please note, At No Point did I suggest taking the longest route to the Hospital in an Emergency.

Rather that there may be life lessons that can be learned through real life experience rather than being read in the manuscripts of long dead poets philosophers and dare I say theologians. Kevin with all due respect, have you ever been one of a handful of White people to spend a night on an Indian Reservation in South Dakota, on your way to a Rally on The Steps of The State Capitol when Death Threats had been made publicly against one of The leaders?
And We learned later that there were 1000 National Guard troops clad in RIOT GEAR just Waiting for an "incident"?

On Another occasion many years later I was part of a group that paid a Sunday Morning (unexpected) visit to the home of a Prominent leader of a New York Crime Family...

Well Kevin, I have been in both of those Situations. Not quite sure what Hagel or Barth or Nietzsche would Say about that....
But I have learned many lessons from Such experiences. A Wisdom not available through standard academic study.

And yet through it all I have clung to my faith in Jesus, and my life has been richly Blessed.

L'chaim! :-)

It means "TO LIFE" and is more a life philosophy than an excuse to get drunk!



Kevin Haug said...

First, a wise member of my congregation once said, "Seek first to understand and then to be understood." I find great wisdom in that phrase, and I personally have put it into practice since the day I found out about "Littlefeet." While I have not experienced the personal pain of losing a spouse, I have walked through it with enough people to know the devastation and emotional turmoil it causes for months to years afterward. I also know how that pain can translate into unintended snappiness and anger. Because this governs my overall view, I don't become overly agitated at your comments. I perhaps think things could have been said better, again an opinion, but it rarely causes me to become angry and/or question your mental health. I know some of what is in your heart and in your life and in some small measure understand.

Which brings me to the place to address your second comment. Which is to say that I have not experienced such things, but experience isn't necessary for some measure of understanding. Those old philosophers, theologians, and ancient manuscripts dealt with the nature of humanity -- which despite our technological advances hasn't changed much at all. Those folks/things have shared their experiences and lessons so that we don't have to rely on our own experiences to teach us but can learn from others.

Or, as the saying goes: There are those blessed ones who learn by reading. There are those special ones who learn by observation. And then there are those who have to pee on the electric fence before they get it.

Anonymous said...

Kevin
Stephen Covey was a member of your congregation?
I appreciate your efforts.

Here again with all due respect, and no judgment intended, I
really do want to come to a better understanding, and I do respect you as a very learned and intelligent scholar.
In no way do I intend to call into question your thoughts actions, beliefs, or
lifestyle. Such judgment is far beyond my pay grade. :-)

It does occur to me that the Gospel that we as Christians proclaim is
by it's very nature contrary to the "ways of the World" for if it
were not in some fundamental way contrary its function and form would
ultimately have been absorbed into the culture, and become
meaningless.

I trust that we are in agreement on this statement..

If not please correct me....

I will raise the question, What if in living out our Christian faith, we at some point find ourselves in an spot where there happens to be an Electric fence, it is dark and nature calls?

I recently made the acquaintance of the parents of an ELCA missionary, who in his
zeal to spread the Gospel accepted a call to a position which led him
being murdered in the mission field.
Didn't he know any better? I am certain that he knew of the
possibility of such danger. Perhaps he Should have stayed here, in Minnesota and found a safer way to share his knowledge and passion to help the people of Africa... Maybe contribute to a scholarly journal,
and quote Aristotle, Plato... Socrates or Hagel? Clearly, had he done so, the odds of his being here today would have been greater. BTW his wife is still working in that country, and his parents actively advocate and raise money for the program that he helped establish.

Just guessing here, but I will Wager that he learned lessons in his life experience that no book could ever teach.

Was he wise in his Zeal to do the Lord's Work, or was he just another fool who got too close to the fence when nature called?

Would God ever call any of His Children (oh say maybe even His own Son) to do something so imprudent?

Just curious...

Carl

Kevin Haug said...

We are indeed fools for Christ, but that is the key...for Christ.

The proclamation of the Gospel often leads us into dangerous territory where we risk life and limb for neighbor. Where we risk arrest and imprisonment. Where we break the laws of man to point to the higher laws of God.

The civil rights movement did just this. They broke man's laws and faced arrest and violence for doing so. They continually exposed the wrongness of those in authority by their self sacrifice all the while pointing to a Higher Authority.

Do such protestations do such things today? Is life and limb on the line when people march and "die in?" The symbolism is intriguing, but overall meaningless. There is little risk to anyone.

That is a huge difference.

Unknown said...

Well my friend, see, my God works in strange ways, and from What I understand, it is ever thus. Are you a sage or an oracle capable of seeing and recognizing in any given action or movement the will of GOD?
The bard from the Iron Range once wrote:
"Come writers and critics who prophesy with your pen
and keep your eyes wide the chance won't come again,
And don't speak to soon for the Wheel is still in spin
And There's no tellin' who that it's namin'
For The loser now will be later to Win... "

Might I humbly suggest my friend, that it may be just a bit early to write off the actions of these protesters, and one dare not Ever disparage the working of the Holy Spirit. I think there are verses in scripture about That aren't there?


Carl



Really?

Kevin Haug said...

An intriguing question, you ask Carl. An intriguing question. If I answer in the positive that I can indeed see God's hand or interpret the will of God, then I can be seen as arrogant. However, if I answer in the negative, then one must truly ask, "Can anyone at all say whether anything is indeed God's will or not? Must we then wait until the final product is before us until we judge an action to be of God or not?"

Would you dare to suggest the actions leading up to the protests are the "will of God" to motivate people to protest and change things? I wouldn't. I wouldn't even begin to say that the killing of unarmed individuals are according to God's will. I will say this with firm conviction.

So what if those killings lead to massive changes to our justice system and a rethinking of what police do? Does the positive outcome justify the initial action?

I know I am putting words into your mouth in a sense and you are not referring back to such events. However, I am reading the natural logic that your post inspires.

As Christians, we know that God works to bring positive outcomes even out of brokenness. We know there is resurrection after crucifixion. We know that life springs from death, but it does not mean that the crucifixion was just or in accord with God's will.

If something is amiss with the will of God, then we should name it.

Such protestations which are going on now may or may not be in accordance with the will of God. That I do not know.

What I do know is that such protestations, when performed in a culture without a conscience are meaningless.

Unknown said...

OK so in the instance of South Africa, you will recall that it was the official doctrine of the official church there to preach that the Separation of the Races was in fact the Will of GOD. And finally when the Apartheid System was overthrown, (I would suggest that might have been God moving in History.) Though South Africa is far from the utopian dream that some may have hoped for. A Funny Thing is that another force/factor was the Communist Party. And The African National Congress, Sadly the Communist Party played a greater leadership role than the any Lutheran Church group that I am aware of. Could it possibly be that Our God,the GOD of History was using even the Godless Communists to achieve HIS Purpose?
And if so was that a good or a bad thing? As I recall many a Lutheran "Leaders" opposed the Anti-APARTHEID movement because they didn't want To be accused of associating with Communists... and were afraid of the political fallout, because after all we all know that In Christ There is no East or West, In Him no North or South....and We Don't want to make any waves that might "rock the boat"

How do such acts of cowardice witness to the Risen Victorious Christ?

My interrogatives in these posts are NOT idle chit chat, but genuine questions I am struggling with these days.


Carl

Unknown said...

When I was in Mississippi after Katrina, I saw a sign at a Church doing Gods will, Feeding The Hungry and helping people get back in their Houses, The Sign Said Katrina was an Act of Nature, What We do here are Acts of GOD.

I never suggested that any incidents of DEATH BY COP were the Will of God. YEs you were putting words in my Mouth. Such foolishness is scarcely worth my response. AMEN!

Most assuredly you do not see things that way either... So why go there?????

CIAO

Carl

Kevin Haug said...

I go there, Carl, because of the logic you were using--essentially, we have to see the result to see whether or not something is of God.

I was trying to point out that even in the midst of the evil we do, God is often at work transforming things into good. Which is why we can say something is not the will of God. Yet, we are assured God's will is accomplished even without our works. The question is whether or not we are indeed engaging in that will or are working against it.

Perhaps God was using the Communist Party in South Africa to help bring about the change which is more in accord with God's will. And the actions of the church there certainly did not testify to the risen Christ. But, you did have a culture that had a conscience which understood a Higher Authority.

This is the main point of my post. I am not sure if you are having difficulty seeing that or not.

Unknown said...

Great Heavenly Days,
Is it your recollection that all Steven Biko, Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela had to do was sit down and appeal to the higher nature of the White Afrikaners ruling South Africa? Tell me about the Afrikaner Governments listening to and obeying a Higher Authority? And WHEN WAS THAT?Before or After the Sharpsville Massacre in 1960? Before or After the SOWETO Upraising???? The Sharpsville Massacre in 1960, Where BTW 69 black protesters were gunned down in what some now believe was a case of inexperienced police panicked and opened fire... The Soweto uprising didn't need to happen? Did they discuss Kant and Hagel?

REALLY KEVIN? Tell me so Stephen Biko deserved to be in imprisoned and die there?
WHY?

They understood and obeyed a higher authority in a Way that the current American government does NOT?

I do not subscribe to your fairy tale understanding of the history of South Africa and of the beneficent all knowing and Kind White Government that handed over power when they deemed the Black majority competent to rule themselves?

listen to the paternalism inherent in that SPECIOUS assertion!

What is Likely in my estimation is that God Hardened the Hearts of the Afrikaner Government the way that he did the heart of the Pharaoh.

But This digresses from the point of my post. Who is it that says that God is not acting and moving in the current demonstrations against death by Cop, and how do you know that NOTHING will Come of it, Either in the lives of the demonstrators or in the larger society?

Carl

Unknown said...

This banter has gon eon long enough.... I am done


CCarl

Kevin Haug said...

Carl,

You seem to misunderstand what a conscience is. Having a conscience does not mean that one does not do evil or bad things. It means that in the recesses of one's mind (or cultural psyche), there is something that knows that which is right and that which is wrong; and that after consistently being shown what is wrong, desires change toward that which is right and good.

Do you find it as intriguing as I that the only cultures which have fought for women's rights and the rights of the individual are cultures which have in their history strong Protestant backgrounds? I do. These cultures have committed some terrible things, but have progressed because of a conscience rooted and grounded in the Protestant Christian notion of basic human rights. South Africa is no exception to this rule as it was once part of the British Empire.

It's also why Ghandi's reforms worked to overthrow the British government there. His non-violence appealed to the British's greater sense of a Higher Authority.

Once a culture is severed from this conscience and can no longer appeal to such a higher authority, then really, really terrible things happen. Do you want to know why the Nazis were able to come to power and commit the atrocities they did? Do you know what formed the basis for their thought? It wasn't Christianity. It was Nietzsche.

Perhaps you believe such things are simply academic and not worth pursuing. Perhaps you believe the big questions play no part in the midst of such demonstrations and their outcomes, but I know they do. If indeed our collective culture no longer possesses a conscience--which I argue it no longer does--then these protests will not affect anything.

Which, of course, I further argue, the remedy is not more protests, but to proclaim the Gospel--reconnecting us to the roots of basic rights and identity endowed by the Creator.

Unknown said...

Kevin, I am getting upset with myself and having to censor myself to try to keep from flipping out and getting insulting.
Excuse me kind sir, but as I recall Gandhi went to South Africa with his approach. Can you tell me Why it took another 50 to 60 years for The fall of apartheid? Could it have had Anything to do with the fact that people were simply gunned down there during Gandhi's attempts?
So if once that "sense of a higher power" is gone from a culture how is it possible to get it back? How was it That it worked in South Africa?

Was it Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko chatting in their prison cells on Robben Island? that brought South Africa to recognize a higher authority? Or perhaps High minded Lutheran missionaries preaching the Gospel to them?

So you don't think that international Sanctions or the boycotting of South African goods was the reason for the fall of Apartheid? But rather again the beneficence of the Afrikaner Party when they thought that The majority had demonstrated a certain degree of "Maturity"

Tell me of the reason for the fall of the Third Reich? Did the Holy Spirit suddenly come over the High ranking officers and convince them of the error of their ways? Or was it as I learned in School, more a Military victory? You know where the army with the best strategy and the larger Military Industrial Complex wins?

I have my suspicions about them, as they too fail to always be on the side of God and right.

OK So Kevin What then is the Solution? I am keen to hear your theory. What will bring(back?)an Awareness of and desire to follow a Higher power?

Trust me on this one Kevin, I REALLY DO WANT TO KNOW!!!


Carl

Kevin Haug said...

If a nation has a conscience, non-violent protest works. If it understands right and wrong, protestations have an effect. If there is no conscience, the people must be converted or forced into submission. If the culture believes in nothing higher than itself, the law of the jungle prevails.

I do not want a culture where ultimately might makes right, yet this is where we are headed in our government, legal system, and cultural psyche. Evidence abounds for this. Which is why I am pointing it out, but I hold out no hope for change unless we are somehow able to re-root these things in the Creator.

Unknown said...

And here is the thing,
On this point We may be in agreement. And Now coming full Circle, my question is what can we as believers do to bear witness to the Light? kind of an advent type question, ain't it... And how will our witness be seen, by those in power and by those seeking justice?
Will those seeking justice see our witness as being as futile as you perceive the protestations we are now witnessing? Kind of a spiral of despair, Ain't it?
My question is not Rhetorical, I really do want to know!

Kevin Haug said...

It does come to evangelism, doesn't it, Carl? And is protesting evangelism?

Read through the book of Acts and see how the early church bore witness. Read about Paul's desire to come before emperors and governing authorities. See what Paul did when brought before those authorities and see what he said. Did Paul challenge the unjust laws of the Roman Empire? Did he tell the authorities that persecuting Christians was wrong?

The next step is to figure out why Christianity then became the official religion of the Roman empire after being opposed and persecuted for so long. It took a couple hundred years for that to happen, but there are substantial reasons why...reasons I do not think we are up to implementing today.

Rodney Stark outlines those in his book The Triumph of Christianity. I am only beginning to read it, but I have read and seen some overviews. What the early Christians did would make most folks' stomachs turn.

Anonymous said...

Genuine change took place with MLK and the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's, so it's possible. The looters in Ferguson are common thieves though.
I think every 5 year old has an inborn sense of justice, what is right and wrong. It's to this which we can appeal.

People who make hurtful comments tend to have been hurt themselves.

I tend to read history and see human motives for why things happen. Cyrus repatriated the Jews because it stabilized the Persian Empire and he was smart. Constantine knew a single state religion would be helpful unifying an Empire that had been fragmented by civil wars, breakaway republics, and rebellious generals as Rome was in the 3rd Century. In the tumult and upheaval the Church filled in the social service gaps tending to widows and orphans, the sick and the hungry. That's how the outsider became entrenched and was the leading contender for state religion. The same thing is happening in Lebanon today with Hezbollah. Is God or Allah active in this? It's possible, but I don't know.

Unknown said...

Excuse me please, What of the peaceful protestors in Ferguson in Minneapolis in Oakland and In Washington In Cleveland and across America?

Kevin Haug said...
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Anonymous said...

MLK would approve of them. But looters stealing from and destroying small businesses are not peaceful. I'm guessing Dr. King would find these actions contemptible and rebuke them.

Unknown said...

OK shall We have a séance, to Channel your new hero, Doctor King and see what He says?

I think that your speculation is irrelevant. Gosh I wonder What General Custer would think of Native Americans in 2014... would you care to speculate?

Carl

Anonymous said...

You're welcome to your opinion, as am I. As I said, people who make hurtful comments have almost always been hurt themselves. I think you have. I also think you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing; not desiring a constructive outcome but just to flash your intelligence and criticize others. Civilized men can disagree agreeably.

You asked the question, so I did you the courtesy of replying to your question. I think peaceful protest is a good thing. Dr. King is the most successful example of this in the last 50 years of American history, and is a hero to many, if not to me. As a man who has read some of his writings and teachings it's far easier to infer his opinion than the Will of God which I make no claims to knowing.

What do you support or stand for?

Unknown said...

Thank you Dr. Freud!

Unknown said...


Yup, Opinions are just like noses, Everybody has one and NEEDS one... Yours fit you, and mine are just fine for me, thank you very much. I know better than to insist that your nose look just like mine.

Can you tell me Please, Why it that men preaching Peace and Non violence get assassinated? I give you Christ, Gandhi and King... And what is it About these "Losers" that I"nspires" you? Are you sufficiently dedicated to any of them, to lay down your life for the causes they espouse?

Tell me please... Since you have the temerity to speak for Dr King, I wonder what Harriet Tubman would think of The peaceful protests around country and World about The Recent epidemic of Death By Cop...

I am NOT anti anything. I am pro human rights. I am a Christian looking for justice... I just see things differently than you do. I am appalled that those people in Ferguson who peacefully protested the Murder of Michael Brown are Called thugs and rioters.

Personally, I am encouraged that police departments across the nation are examining their standards and practices, and discussing ways to deescalate potentially hostile situations.