Friday, March 9, 2012

Spring Break Blogging

Just a word to my readers: next week is spring break in our neck of the woods.

I will be taking vacation from my pastoral duties for the week and spending some needed time with my family.

I have written several blogs which will post automatically next week each day at 10 a.m. CST.  Therefore, even though I will be taking a break, my blog will not.  (Isn't technology wonderful.)

I will be able to moderate comments from my cell phone, but odds are, I won't be responding to any.

I greatly appreciate all of you who take the time to read this stuff and comment.  I enjoy the writing portion, but what is a writer without those who read?  Thank  you.


Kathy said...

Before you leave, this is the Guadalupe question. I just posted this on Clint's blog, and I don't want to re-type it -- what do you think???

I have a question. I have tried to ask it on other blogs, and it has been ignored. You and I disagree on many things, but I do respect you, and I would like to hear your point of view.

"In his report, Hanson highlighted Santa Maria de Guadalupe Lutheran Church in Irving, Texas, one of the fastest-growing congregations in the ELCA, with more than 2,500 members worshiping at five services every weekend."

This goes back to our little flap over the Immaculate Conception. If the church were named only Sta. Maria, that would be fine, but Guadalupe, as you know, is a Catholic Church-approved Apparition. This seems to me to violate the Augsburg Confession Article XXI.

I am "malpensada," as they say, but I think this church is growing because the Mexican immigrants think it is a Catholic Church. The other day, I asked an "evangelico" here in Miami what he thought of Martin Luther. He said: "Martin Luther King?" I said: "No, the other Martin Luther." He said: "You mean there are two Martin Luther Kings?!"

Do you see where I am going with this? You know, if the ELCA wants to grow like a Catholic Church, why doesn't it just become Catholic? That would at least be honest.

Kevin Haug said...

I don't think the name of the church violates AC XX1 since the congregation isn't worshiping the Virgin of Guadalupe. It does recognize the importance of the apparition to the Hispanic culture. As to whether or not the congregation chose the name to come across as Roman Catholic...who knows? But that's a hard sell considering the word LUTHERAN in the title.

And, Kathy, you might want to do some demographic study. The Roman Catholic church grew by a tawdry 1% last year. Do you honestly think the Roman Catholic Church is reaching out to unchurched people by it's growth? Or is it because of continued immigration both legal and illegal from Latin America? That would be an honest admission.

Kathy said...

I think my honest admission would be that I am very surprised the Church grew at all given the horrid sex abuse scandal and all the horrid press coverage. I think EWTN contributes to the growth. My motivation in all this is really just to find the common ground, and I hope for the re-unification of the church. I think it is very sad as I've said many times -- and sadly unnecessary -- that we are divided. Since I have been blogging, I have noticed rays of light. I do believe the time is right. "Chemnitz" belongs to the STS -- apparently they believe the Lutherans will someday return to the Catholic Church. So I am not alone.

Lazarusbrands said...

As of May 11, 2012... There is no signage anywere on the church building or property that identifies this as a Lutheran congregation. It does however have an eight-foot high statue of OL Guadalupe surrounded by fountains and a gated fence, prominently displayed in the main parking lot. It was a surprise to me, as a neighbor of the church, to Google the address, only to find that it is NOT a Roman Catholic or Episcopal church with a Latino outreach... But, an ELCA church? Who knew???

A "Google Street View" panorama photo dated May 2011, shows two white posts standing upright, at the curb, as if they were meant to hold signage... One year later, there is still no signage identifying this building as ELCA or any other congregation, and all signage on the building are in Spanish only.

The two posts at the street curb, appear on May 11, 2012 to be exactly as they were in the May 2011 photo. The Google photo also clearly shows the statue mentioned above, in the otherwise empty parking lot.

The white crosses mounted on the parking lot light posts are numbered with Roman numerals I-XIV, commonly known in Roman Catholic architecture as the "Stations of the Cross."

The only way I knew this was a Lutheran congregation, was from GOOGLE! Just thought I would give ya'll some clarification on the topic.

Kevin Haug said...

Thanks, lazarusbrands for the clarification on things.